This is a Judge deck using Jia as the combat starter. It is really aggressive and tries to kill their people to win quickly.
I have played it 6-7 times and only once have I not been able to do a Force Quarantine first turn. I have often had to retrieve it from my discard, but Jia is okay with that.
The idea is simple. Hit the target with your outfit and then have Jia, Travis, and Willa run a forced quarantine. Willa is incredible. While you have her you can cheat more often and take more risks. With a basically 3-16 draw structure you are going to shoot really well.
I go back and forth between Valeria and Tyx starting. The upkeep from Tyx and Jia destroys my economy, but he also keeps Jia safe from sun and other card effects. I like Valeria more because you are still running 4 P marks and 4 Blood Curses. You can go in, kill some high influence people, and then win with normal 4th Ring bullshit.
This is basically I better version of the Judge deck. The Judge has issues generating control points and its Law Dogs (easily the worst faction, their dudes are garbage). This combines the bullshit of 4R with the fast attack of the Judge. The ability to create control points on top of that is just icing on the cake.
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Mar 01, 2016 madscience |
Mar 01, 2016
Woody
It's nice to see the 4R getting a shot in the arm especially with how the Lawdogs have been running roughshod in all metas. Exp Jia Mein helps this underpowered faction finally compete. |
Mar 01, 2016
DoomDog
Is this meant to be using The Sanatorium or are you relying on Blood Curse to set up your Forced Quarantines? |
Mar 01, 2016
mplain
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Mar 01, 2016
Woody
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Mar 01, 2016
mplain
BTW I missed the point when Law Dogs became weak. Last I saw them they were played by Big Z and kicked ass with 4x Kidnap 4x BH, what changed? |
Mar 01, 2016
goreshde
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Mar 01, 2016
InvertedGuard
How useful was Phantom Fingers? |
Mar 01, 2016
Woody
Lawdogs only play is bounties and kidnapping... The best decks I have seen use that with Vasilis the Boar. I have had a good run with them but they are not all comers decks to be sure.
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Mar 01, 2016
Woody
Enough about how terrible Lawdogs are... This deck is really good and deserves play in other metas. |
Mar 02, 2016
lonewolf
I would Not be as harsh as Woody but I agree With him that LD dudes are often understated, and the Miracles have problems between Value/Skillcheck/Effets interactions. The latest Miracles are pretty much better but have greater restrictions than Spirit or the older Hexes. For This deck: you compare with Judge that I played and tried to evolve many times. But I see big différences between them: the Draw structure of the Judge is so strong and never Cheatin'. In This deck you have a classical 3x16. Judge aggro you at first action. Here , your opponent Will have actions played before being called out. Judge is triggered With Andrew Burton's bounty. Quarantine need you to have it in hand or in Lowball. The réal and important advantage of This deck is the CP generator. This deck is interesting but I would Not compare it to the power of agression of the Judge archetype. If I would try to build This, I think I would try something more of the likes of the true judge deck : trying some sort of more agressive set up, cuting Deeds and Dudes and playing a structure out of straighten flush |
Mar 02, 2016
goreshde
Much like the Judge deck this deck is weakened if you go after me first. In a heads up match I think the Judge might have an edge, but against the field at large Jia is the way to go.
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Mar 02, 2016
pvdel
I played with almost identical list today (squeezed in 4 Soul Blasts and together with 2 Phantom Fingers had 6 cards off-value). My initial impression: I liked the deck quite a bit. It will still lose against a turn1 Kidnappin on Jia, but otherwise it has a decent chance against the field. What I liked the most was that you don't really need to (and often don't want to) play a Judge game. You can develop a board like a regular Clown deck and strike when you're ready. That's why I feel like 4 Forced Quarantine may be 1 too many., With three you're pretty much guaranteed to have one mid-game and then re-use it every turn if need be. That would make a slot for a single INWYK. |
Mar 14, 2016
Harlath
This recent ruling would seem to significantly weaken the Judge Jia deck. Apologies if I'm the bearer of bad news for some (although it may be good news for others!): www.alderac.com |
Mar 14, 2016
Woody
We were just talking about how terrible that ruling was. I don't play it but I have to play Goreshde so i guess that is good for me. :P |
Mar 15, 2016
Harlath
Decision reversed! Jia is now a stud running Forced Quarantine once more. |
I was doing something similar, using 9's, for Mark of Pestilence. I had widened the scheme too much, but there was definitely something to be done with Jia.
The only problem I have, (that I found with mine) was that If they can screw with Jia, your done.
I've been trying to find a group of starters that would allow you to start Tyx and Jia, to give you an added element of protection for him, but assembling the pieces hasn't quite happened yet.