[TCR] The Long Con 2: The Longer Con

published May 13, 2016 | | |
Card draw simulator
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Derived from
The Long Con 0 0 3
Inspiration for
The Long Con (Huddersfield Euro 2017 8th place) 4 3 3

caelreth 96

An improvement on my first published deck. Again, advice/suggestions are welcome.

Use Funtime Freddy to fish up a Phantom Fingers and a Fetch.

The aim is to get Putting The Pieces Together into play using Jia Mein (Exp.1), then keep it unbooted by never cheating. In shootouts, you're looking to get a flush of Clubs, possibly boosted by Coming Up Roses. If you've managed to get 4x Putting The Pieces Together, that's a consistent Rank 10 hand! Just don't cheat.

May 13, 2016 BreakingPoint0

Maybe I'm missing something, but what is "Putting The Pieces Together" and "Coming Up Roses"?

Have you had a chance to play this? If so how does it work?

I feel like you should find a way to throw at least one 10 of Clubs in there. That way you have that option for a straight flush as well, however small it might be.

May 13, 2016 tbowers13

Those are cards from the new set that you can't see because you haven't refreshed your browser cache since the site was updated. Hit ctrl+f5

May 13, 2016 BreakingPoint0

Haha, well that negates my comment! Looks really interesting.

Comin' Up Roses is going to be a strong card for straight flush decks.

Why did you decide to use Heretic Joker (Red)?

May 13, 2016 caelreth

It's because Putting The Pieces Together boots if you reveal a cheating hand, and so if you have a few of them out, revealing a cheating hand during lowball (or, indeed, during a shootout- but cheating is easier to avoid in a shootout) would utterly mess up that turn.

May 14, 2016 crx3800

Keep in mind, you can choose not to pay the upkeep on Putting the Pieces together if they boot in lowball.

May 14, 2016 tbowers13

That's not an upkeep cost crx3800, its income.

May 14, 2016 pvdel

@tbowers13 It's upkeep. Income is denoted with a '+' before the number.

May 14, 2016 tbowers13

Not when its attached to a deed or home it isn't. Monte Bank has the + symbol because it attaches to dudes who normally have upkeep noted in the bottom right as opposed to deeds which note income. If I'm wrong on this I'll be surprised. Has a ruling been made on the AEG forums?

May 14, 2016 tbowers13

Oh shoot, you're right. How did I miss that?

May 16, 2016 caelreth

Well, I was able to get fourth place with a 3-1 record at the 11-player OP6 event in Hartlepool 14/05/16 with this deck (though the first round was a bye for me) It showed me several things about the deck:

Fiddle Game is awesome, as it's income that your opponent can do nothing about. Need to put 4 in the deck.

Forced quarantine is a decent supply of control points, as well as spot removal.

Between those two, the deck can run with hardly any deeds in it. (It won twice without drawing any deeds)

Economy definitely needs work, as does influence.

The deck only ever cheated once, and that was on the first lowball pull of game 4.

With Putting The Pieces Together, the hand reduction from Heretic Joker isn't so bad - I was able to pull a rank 10 hand with it.

May 16, 2016 Yipe

The database has Putting The Pieces Together as upkeep, not income. Are we sure it's treated as income when attached to your home? On the AEG forum someone asked about this card and part of the answer is that it's upkeep.

My guess is that it's upkeep so you can get rid of it if you choose (e.g. you find your deck is cheating more than you thought).

May 16, 2016 DoomDog

At the Hartlepool OP event, every time I looked over to where you were playing I saw you'd just pulled a Straight Flush. I'd have liked to see the deck in action, it's definitely an interesting one!

May 16, 2016 caelreth

@YipeI was treating it as an upkeep, which was most of the cause of my economy problems. No sense in discarding them though, as they're vital to the running of the deck, even if they will mean you won't have decent shootouts for a turn following a cheating hand. However, as I said above, the deck only cheated once. @DoomDog Yeah, with the cheating resolution of Comin' Up Roses a straight flush (which then would get boosted to rank 11) isn't that hard to pull off.